Give me more P (and less of that Archetypes drivel)
PR is the new marketing and customer service is the new marketing and Paul The Octopus is the new marketing and purple is the new black (thanks to Justin Bieber). Fads, they come and go, but back when I was a young ‘un, we talked about something called the 4Ps.
The serious eyebrows discussions were all about the 5th P (people) and then service marketing got greedy and decided they needed 7 Ps and it all got a bit silly. We talked about ‘service-scaping’ (I love that term) and how speeding up the music in the supermarket makes you shop faster (yes it does) and how the screaming kid on the plane makes you hate the airline (yes it does). To squish it into the marketing mix ‘P’ speak this was called ‘physical evidence’ or:
“the environment in which the service is assembled and in which the seller and customer interact, combined with tangible commodities that facilitate performance or communication of the service” (Booms and Bitner, 1981).
Now the wheel reinventers are talking about ‘service design’ and ‘active listening’ and ‘customer touchpoints’ as if they’d found water on Mars.
“Something something Apple Store,” they say, and (here’s the best bit) “ARCHETYPES!”
Then they show you a wizzy PowerPoint slide of the Apple Store in New York and say ‘archetypes’ some more.
When I pointed out to a recent peddler of such snake oil that a) this stuff isn’t new and b) it’s a marketing thing, he got quite upset, told me that I was wrong and that it was all ‘very different’ although he couldn’t tell me how. I used to work for large retailer and I used to love watching videos of poor victims (I mean customers) wandering around in the store being brainwashed (I mean assisted) by propaganda (I mean trade communications) from the Giant Head (I just made that bit up).
Yes marketing has wandered off course and the marketing mix in most organisations has been hijacked by the big sexy old ‘Promotion’ P (hey baby want to be on TV?) but the theory hasn’t changed.
Much of the community and referral techniques we see in loyalty and social media are just Claude C.Hopkins “Scientific Advertising” theories from 1923 that have been microchipped up. Consumer psychology, focus groups, market research, attribute modelling and demographic profiling? How can this stuff be considered new and ‘not a marketing thing”?
Paco Underhill Why We Buy: The Science of Shopping is great little book and Vance Packard The Hidden Persuaders from 1957 is a bit more tinfoil helmet but equally awesome. Archetypes are a Jungian thing and come from Greek times so you can’t claim that one. Jack Trout Differentiate or Die-Survival in Our Era of Killer Competition is the book I always seem to go back to and Philip Kotler keeps knocking out solid meaty marketing theory. In the new kids club, Brian Solis is a lone voice of sanity in the wilderness and he writes fresh and clean like a newly pressed lawn on a freshly mown shirt.
I’m all for a bit for a bit of smoke and mirrors but if you want to rehash Madonna shoulder pads as the latest fashion, pretending that you’ve never heard of Madonna and you thought of it yourself just makes you look thick.
If any Service Designers head this way they will be told to get off my lawn. It’s a marketing thing and the Ps were here first.





























Duncan Stuart
August 3, 2010
Courtney. Fabulous piece.
Lee
August 3, 2010
Well said Courtney. I'm getting a bit fed up with new tools being touted as revolutionary new theory. Bollocks. They are just that, new tools to be used with good marketing practice. Cool, shiny, new and pretty awesome tools but still just tools.
courtney lambert @cjlambert
August 3, 2010
thanks for the bio Vincent ..charming old bastard
Lou D
August 3, 2010
solid as always. good stuff, love it.
Mr. Social
August 3, 2010
Hats off Courtney, on an accurate, well-informed and entertaining write-up.
Couldn't agree more. It's always back to the basics. And the principles (God of all Ps), they stay the same.
Btw, guess what my last blog post was called >>> http://bit.ly/ct42eR
Kirsty
August 3, 2010
Another great read thanks Courtney.
Louise
August 3, 2010
Brilliant! My services marketing lecturer would be spitting at this… which makes me love it even more!
David MacGregor
August 3, 2010
You crack me up. Totally agree…all that is old is new again. Blogged on a similar riff recently http://bit.ly/ccfk8V
Peeyoosh Chandra
August 5, 2010
HI Courtney,
Loved it!
Thx,
PC
courtney lambert @cjlambert
September 7, 2010
Marketing 101 people. Marketing 101.